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	<title>Comments on: WhiBal vs. Digital Grey Kard</title>
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		<title>By: Ryzon</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who say the WhiBal images are &quot;too cool&quot; or that you &quot;like the warm tones&quot;, I think you are missing the basic point of using a white balance card in the first place, which is to remove ALL light generated color cast from the image and obtain an image that is true to the color of the objects being photographed.  You can only do this by using an absolutely neutral reference, which is what the WhiBal provides.  Once you have the color cast removed, then you can tweak the image to be warmer if desired.  The fact that the Digital Grey Kard produces warmer tones compared to the certified neutral WhiBal card indicates the Digital Grey Kard is not neutral (i.e., there is color cast still left in the image).  Considering the cost of even mediocre camera equipment, the price difference between the two products is really irrelevant.  I would much rather put my money on a known certified neutral reference than save a few pennies on something that gives me &quot;warm tones&quot; and therefore doesn&#039;t perform its basic function as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who say the WhiBal images are &#8220;too cool&#8221; or that you &#8220;like the warm tones&#8221;, I think you are missing the basic point of using a white balance card in the first place, which is to remove ALL light generated color cast from the image and obtain an image that is true to the color of the objects being photographed.  You can only do this by using an absolutely neutral reference, which is what the WhiBal provides.  Once you have the color cast removed, then you can tweak the image to be warmer if desired.  The fact that the Digital Grey Kard produces warmer tones compared to the certified neutral WhiBal card indicates the Digital Grey Kard is not neutral (i.e., there is color cast still left in the image).  Considering the cost of even mediocre camera equipment, the price difference between the two products is really irrelevant.  I would much rather put my money on a known certified neutral reference than save a few pennies on something that gives me &#8220;warm tones&#8221; and therefore doesn&#8217;t perform its basic function as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pop,

Speaking of intelligence, &#039;your&#039; is possessive, &#039;you&#039;re&#039; is a contraction for &#039;you are&#039;. If you attack people, you&#039;re advised to learn the difference since people will validly question your lack of intelligence. You also apparently cannot comprehend basic subject verb agreement i.e. &#039;don&#039;t costs less&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop,</p>
<p>Speaking of intelligence, &#8216;your&#8217; is possessive, &#8216;you&#8217;re&#8217; is a contraction for &#8216;you are&#8217;. If you attack people, you&#8217;re advised to learn the difference since people will validly question your lack of intelligence. You also apparently cannot comprehend basic subject verb agreement i.e. &#8216;don&#8217;t costs less&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pop</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry - Your an idiot. We have to make a law where the biased can&#039;t leave comments. It&#039;d be like a Captcha except all they&#039;d have to do is spell -H0N3STY- or -i.n.t.e.l.l.i.g.e.n.c.e.- so we wouldn&#039;t have to deal. First off Digital Grey Kards DON&#039;T costs a LOT less. Your dumb. Another reason your stupid is he never said there&#039;s no shipping cost, he said no cost to The Netherlands, meaning ADDITIONAL COSTS. Shipping costs do change retard. And what are you talking about with the three cards? At the fact you didn&#039;t even read the article before you exposed your ignorant mind is pretty sad. He wrote right in the article &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The package includes set of THREE COLOR BALANCE CARDS.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; THEN HE LISTS THE COLORS after that and shows them in multiple pictures! Your stupid and that&#039;s exactly why you sell Digital Grey Kards. Your about as creative in life as you were in this page. YOU LACK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry &#8211; Your an idiot. We have to make a law where the biased can&#8217;t leave comments. It&#8217;d be like a Captcha except all they&#8217;d have to do is spell -H0N3STY- or -i.n.t.e.l.l.i.g.e.n.c.e.- so we wouldn&#8217;t have to deal. First off Digital Grey Kards DON&#8217;T costs a LOT less. Your dumb. Another reason your stupid is he never said there&#8217;s no shipping cost, he said no cost to The Netherlands, meaning ADDITIONAL COSTS. Shipping costs do change retard. And what are you talking about with the three cards? At the fact you didn&#8217;t even read the article before you exposed your ignorant mind is pretty sad. He wrote right in the article &#8221;&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;The package includes set of THREE COLOR BALANCE CARDS.&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;&#8221; THEN HE LISTS THE COLORS after that and shows them in multiple pictures! Your stupid and that&#8217;s exactly why you sell Digital Grey Kards. Your about as creative in life as you were in this page. YOU LACK.</p>
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		<title>By: Trīs jauni loriņi fotoaparātam &#171; the brand with the four stripes</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Trīs jauni loriņi fotoaparātam &#171; the brand with the four stripes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WhiBal un Digital Grey Kard būtībā ir identiski produkti, tikai pēdējais ir lētāks (man sanāca nepilni 24 USD ar piegādi). Lietošanu var apgūt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WhiBal un Digital Grey Kard būtībā ir identiski produkti, tikai pēdējais ir lētāks (man sanāca nepilni 24 USD ar piegādi). Lietošanu var apgūt [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KBeat</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>KBeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my search for the perfect white balance tool for shooting RAW, I&#039;ve used WhiBal cards, grey cards, ExpoDiscs, X-Rite Color Checker, and every setting a camera has to offer. My results have shown that I get very similar white balance results from most products, with the exception of the WhiBal cards. WhiBal cards give me results that are too cool, and are not neutral, like you see in your example. I&#039;ve tested this under controlled studio lighting, and the WhiBal results are always too cool.

Currently I use an ExpoDisc most of the time, as it allows me to shoot JPEG as well when needed. However, if I was purchasing a card to do post correction, I&#039;d recommend the Digital Grey Kard over the WhiBal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my search for the perfect white balance tool for shooting RAW, I&#8217;ve used WhiBal cards, grey cards, ExpoDiscs, X-Rite Color Checker, and every setting a camera has to offer. My results have shown that I get very similar white balance results from most products, with the exception of the WhiBal cards. WhiBal cards give me results that are too cool, and are not neutral, like you see in your example. I&#8217;ve tested this under controlled studio lighting, and the WhiBal results are always too cool.</p>
<p>Currently I use an ExpoDisc most of the time, as it allows me to shoot JPEG as well when needed. However, if I was purchasing a card to do post correction, I&#8217;d recommend the Digital Grey Kard over the WhiBal.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.mincel.com/featured/whibal-vs-digital-grey-kard/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent review of the DGK.  I&#039;m glad you liked the color balance you got with the Digital Grey Kard.  Both cards work well, the Digital Grey Kard costs a LOT less.  I don&#039;t agree that there are no shipping charges to the NL for the WhiBal - please check their website.  The actual cost is 3.00 USD, giving a total cost to a NL customer of 32.95 for the WhiBal vs. 22.98 for the Digital Grey Kard.  

That means you save 40% if you buy the Digital Grey Kard.   In these tough times, most photographers would like to save USD 10.00 if they can!  

One other small note:  You did not mention that the Digital Grey Kard is three cards, the WhiBal is only one card.  We have many customers who insist on the three card set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the excellent review of the DGK.  I&#8217;m glad you liked the color balance you got with the Digital Grey Kard.  Both cards work well, the Digital Grey Kard costs a LOT less.  I don&#8217;t agree that there are no shipping charges to the NL for the WhiBal &#8211; please check their website.  The actual cost is 3.00 USD, giving a total cost to a NL customer of 32.95 for the WhiBal vs. 22.98 for the Digital Grey Kard.  </p>
<p>That means you save 40% if you buy the Digital Grey Kard.   In these tough times, most photographers would like to save USD 10.00 if they can!  </p>
<p>One other small note:  You did not mention that the Digital Grey Kard is three cards, the WhiBal is only one card.  We have many customers who insist on the three card set.</p>
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